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Well, this is what's going on...

about the dentist. He called the house, and Shannon wasn't here, so he talked to me first. He said he wants to set up a meeting for all of us to talk and discuss what happened and he could explain himself to us. I asked him how he could possibly explain leaving a bleeding patient with the assistant and he said, "We need to set up this talk. It's important." Then his office manager called and said she needs to set this meeting up as soon as possible and I told her I would call her with a day and time tomorrow. I needed time to think about it. I mean really, what's he going to say? He did it and there is nothing much to say now that it's over with. I don't know why they want the meeting, but they are both pushing for it, so
AHCCCS must have really gotten on his case, that's all I can think of. Maybe they won't let him practice until he gets it cleared up. I have no idea. But I find it odd that both of them called on a Saturday and want me to call them tomorrow with a day and time to set up. It's sort of strange, don't you think? Grey told me to make sure and take someone with us that isn't a family member, so I'm going to get my friend K.C. to go with us. I actually feel sort of sorry for all of them. I'm still really pissed off and I don't know if there is any way to clear this up. He said today he wondered what it would take to make things better. I think that was worded oddly too. So now, I have to put up with that. I'm thinking of having KC record the entire meeting on tape. What do you all think? There is no way I can write fast enough to keep up with everyone, so a recording is the only other thing I could think of.

Comments?????

ETA: There is going to be no meeting. So nothing to worry about. The dentist just wants me to sign something and be done with it. I'm not. He shouldn't be working on kids. It's as simple as that.

Hugs, Patt

Comments

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peja1956
Mar. 28th, 2010 08:09 am (UTC)
sounds like he's worried about a law suit
pattrose
Mar. 28th, 2010 11:13 pm (UTC)
We're not even suing. I just don't think a man who works on childrens teeth should act like he did around them. Such a jerk, you can't even believe. At any rate, I feel better knowing that the two places are going to take care of the situation. I don't know if they will let us know what the results are. But at least I know he's sweating about it. Maybe that will make him think twice about hurting another child and treating them so shamelessly.
Hugs, Patt
peja1956
Mar. 29th, 2010 04:27 am (UTC)
good luck to you and hugs for all your loved ones.
grey853
Mar. 28th, 2010 08:34 am (UTC)
Be sure to check the laws of your state about recording him if you do it without his knowledge. In some states that's against the law. If he has a problem with you recording it, then you already know he's not serious about resolving the issue.

I'm thinking he might offer more than an apology, maybe a settlement of some kind. If he does that, you might need to contact a lawyer. Don't sign anything that waives his responsibility unless you get a better sense of what's going on.

pattrose
Mar. 28th, 2010 08:46 am (UTC)
Oh I wasn't going to record without asking. And if he won't let us, the meeting is over. If he offers money, then we have to get a second opinion. You are the first. LOL Thanks for always being here for me, Grey. You're the best.
Hugs, Patt
bluewolf458
Mar. 28th, 2010 09:45 am (UTC)
Definitely sounds as if they're well aware that they could be in serious trouble. Having an independent person there is sensible, but I'd try to get a lawyer there too if at all possible.
pattrose
Mar. 28th, 2010 08:08 pm (UTC)
I talked to the office manager today and I told her there was going to be no meeting. I would talk with AHCCCS and ADA and go from there. She pissed me off, so no meeting. I think I might get a lawyer. This dentist needs to not be working on children.
Hugs, Patt
tinnean
Mar. 28th, 2010 11:00 am (UTC)
His job and his license could be on the line. If he's as callous to other patients as he was to Sam, you can believe yours wasn't the first complaint.

As for his wondering what it would take to make things better, that sounds like a last ditch effort of some sort to save his butt.

Stay frosty, Patt, and good luck with this.
pattrose
Mar. 28th, 2010 08:10 pm (UTC)
It doesn't matter now, because I told them no meeting. I'm even thinking about getting a lawyer. We'll see what ADA and AHCCCS has to say about all of this.
Hugs, Patt
carodee
Mar. 28th, 2010 04:50 pm (UTC)
My guess? Besides offering you a settlement to drop the case, he'll give you a massive sob story to make you feel guilty. Anybody who knows you, Patt, will realize you have a soft heart.

I bet he'll show you pictures of his kids and ask you not to ruin their lives because their dad can't make a living and then he'll confess he has a drug/alcohol problem (which is why he walked out and left the clean up to the assistant because he realized he couldn't do it himself under the influence) and he swears he's going into rehab/getting therapy (okay, I'm making this part up but he'll have something that justifies/makes him the victim so you'll feel guilty for punishing him. Then he'll swear it will never, ever, ever happen again because you've made him realize he was wrong! He may even cry! D-: Yadda yadda yadda.

The problem is that once you've signed any release he's off the hook and doesn't have to do anything more. Or if he does do the rehab and relapses in six months... Even if he makes you feel guilty, remember the other kids he may do this to. I don't know if the settlement offer would be enough to make life much easier (and I won't judge your family if that's true) but I'd let the courts and his peers judge him myself.
pattrose
Mar. 28th, 2010 08:12 pm (UTC)
I'm not signing anything. I told them today, no meeting. I want to see what happens with ADA and AHCCCS first and then we'll go from there. There is no way he could explain his actions in hurting our Samantha. Nothing would be a good enough excuse. I might have a good heart, but when you hurt one of my children or grand-children, I don't forgive easily.
Hugs, Patt
carodee
Mar. 28th, 2010 09:31 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah! You go, girl! Protector of the weak; defender of the innocent. It's a good look for you.
caarianna
Mar. 28th, 2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
Recording the meeting is a good idea. I wonder if he will have a lawyer present. As others have said, this is a meeting for him to explain what happened and why, and there should be nothing asked of you except to listen to him. In this meeting, I don't think you should agree to any kind of settlement 'to make it right' or 'make it go away' -- if he has an offer, he should put it in writing so that you can take it to your lawyer. He may try to push for agreement ie this is a one-time only offer and you have to accept it now. Don't let him manipulate you -- getting settlements which meet the needs of both parties requires negotiation and, as a minimum, you would be given time, as in several days or a week, to consult your own lawyer and think about it.

Clearly, the person is very worried about the complaints you've made. We've been assuming he's likely to manipulate you or try to explain it all away. But perhaps he really is upset about the way he behaved and perhaps he does have a reason that explains his behaviour, or maybe he sincerely wants to apologize. Do your best to listen openly to him, to not entirely prejudge him.
pattrose
Mar. 28th, 2010 08:14 pm (UTC)
There will be no meeting, so he'll not have a chance to say he's sorry. He had his chance to say something and blew it. There is no way he could get out of this. And I don't want money, I want a man that treats children well in that office. WE won't have it with him.

Hugs, Patt
scherwood
Mar. 28th, 2010 11:09 pm (UTC)

*hugs*
*sending support and love*
pattrose
Mar. 28th, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)
Thank you, S. I'm exhausted from just even thinking about all of this. It's a pain. But I feel better now, knowing that he's not going to get away with it.
Hugs, Patt
scherwood
Mar. 28th, 2010 11:26 pm (UTC)

Go you. *smooch*
snufflesdbear
Mar. 29th, 2010 12:28 am (UTC)
Be sure AHCCCS knows he tried this! I think you have made an excellent decision.
pattrose
Mar. 29th, 2010 12:33 am (UTC)
I'm going to write to them tonight and let them know what has transpired. I think it's great that they're taking this seriously.
Hugs, Patt
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